And new writers. The rest? I write about video games, TV and movies. Anna's failure to see the forest for the trees when it comes to the limitations imposed on the people around her--like Hans and Elsa--(Main Character Issue: Preconditions) constrains her efforts to learn why her sister wants nothing to do with her (Main Character Concern: Learning). . She discovers the truth about her grandfather, who had built the dam not to help the Northuldra, but to bind them to his power. Ugh. So then Kristoff sings a funny song about being lost in the woods and ditched by his girl, and it’s purposefully over-the-top like some 80s heartbreak ballad, but even it falls flat thanks to the poor build-up and shoddy writing. [1]: "Dramatica - The Next Chapter in Story Development" "Dramatica - The Next Chapter in Story Development". And lastly, take a look at Anna's Main Character Critical Flaw. Both sister and boyfriend-to-be usher forth similar thematic substance in song (Influence Character Issue: Deficiency vs. The wacky shenanigans continue when Kristoff meets a Northuldran youth who sympathizes with his plight. Treating them as savages of any kind, whether violent or noble, is pretentious and bigoted. I cannot hum a single tune from the whole lot except for the chorus of “Into The Unknown” which I find more annoying than anything. The Northuldra are the latter. And finally, I was pretty letdown by the Northuldran proposal ceremony. I imagine that spending 4 days completely frozen and in sub 0 temperatures that most, if not all, of their crops would fail that year. The novel was first published in 2006. Surprise! Oh, and how come nobody over the past however many decades thought to destroy the dam? Kristoff isn’t the brightest bulb in the lightbulb factory, but even he would know that simply wandering off into the night without a word is bound to lead to problems. It seems like a very small tribe, very far from Arendelle’s borders. Frozen – The Problem With Hans. Moved by her sister's transformation and Kristoff's own bold act of courage (another instance of Influence Character Solution: Proaction), Anna joins in the celebration by doing what she does best--bringing her own brand of mischievous jubilation to a celebration (Story Judgment: Good). Elsa, the sister with the magical power to whip up a snowstorm, has been told to conceal her supernatural ability from everyone, but “the more she suppresses it, the worse it comes out . . . Anna basically asks him to make out in the carriage and instead he tries to ask her to marry him, but starts by reminding her of her doomed romance with Hans. Why would she be so quick to doubt Kristoff, and then abandon him? Anna answers that call by sticking with her Crucial Element of Non-Acceptance, choosing her sister over the easy and obvious one before her, Kristoff (Main Character Resolve: Steadfast). Then there is the “noble savage” in which all Natives are portrayed as good, peaceful and at one with nature. Same with Hans in Frozen. Necessary? Their parents held their breath through Anna's first year of life, then her second, and her third but the little toddler showed no trace of having magical powers. Log in. The basic story (frozen bird fired by nincompoops) has been around for years, with the details always in flux. Olaf’s new song in Frozen II, “When I Am Older” is cute, but nowhere near as funny. I can’t recall a single one. Without it, the story would last two minutes. On the other hand if everyone died of starvation, well, thats not a very good ending to any film. Second, it’s a tent-pole family movie for a whole new generation of six-year-old girls who don’t care about plot holes or mediocre music. We learn of a story that they heard from their father as young girls, about how their grandfather and his men built a dam for the tribal Northuldra people of an enchanted forest to the north, and how the whole thing ended in blood and tears and the forest was put under a dark spell. The storyform works because it holds like-minded thematic material together. As Aurora narrates, Maleficent was "both the villain and the hero" of the story after all. Enjoyable, yes. We never really learn anything more about the man or his ambitions, or why this would actually make the people of the forest more likely to be bound to him or why a dam would hurt the forest. It also works with Anna and Elsa's Relationship Concern of Conscious. The closer a story mimics these processes the less chance for story "holes" and the more it will feel complete. The recipe for success? Furthermore, it occurs to me that the film gets perilously close to “noble savage” territory. Assuming her place within the story (as Audiences do with Main Characters), we become just as blind to that attraction. Elsa assumes the Influence Character role and, after lashing out with her snow monster, takes on the role of Antagonist. There were many moments I found myself smiling or laughing or just immersed in the action, but few where I found myself surprised or relieved or really drawn into the conflict. Could he be in trouble? Factoring in all the other thematic choices made--everything from the Story Outcome of Success to the Relationship Story Focus of Non-acceptance to the Influence Character Solution of Proaction--the story requires Anna's Critical Flaw to be Attraction. In other words, Anna's attraction to others diminishes her ability to save the day. Crazy how that doesn’t work! But how does Anna respond? Some sequels draw naturally from their predecessor, but this one felt like pretty much every idea—including why the girls’ parents died at sea—was conceived after the first film was out already. As her powers are revealed, the responses of those in the castle remind Elsa of how her parents reacted that first day and she flees (Influence Character Problem: Reaction). Coupled with the fact that the queen is lily white and both daughters also lily white, despite their mixed heritage, the “noble savage” elements become even more problematic since we then move right into White Savior territory. The next morning, a female figure appears in the mist, and Kristoff begins his proposal before even bothering to see who she is, perhaps forgetting that he never told Anna he was going out alone into the woods that night to begin with. They are noble. Again, the Northuldra are only half-baked at best, built on vague ideas of what indigenous people are like in our most vapid romantic texts. Frozen 2 could have been a grand adventure. Peter says the sibling storyline unlocked potential for depth of story and emotion that was lacking in initial stages. There were funny and touching moments throughout, especially between Olaf and Anna. a pretty messy story that relies on inserting a lot of backstory that was mysteriously not present at all in the original film. Colleagues steal Greek yogurt and half-eaten oranges, and bosses help themselves to their employees' frozen dinner. Kristoff could just be patient instead of all needy and weird. King Lewis, Queen Elizabeth, and Elsa were asleep now and Anna was the only one still awake. Frozen 2 could have been a grand adventure. Frozen II has made a big box office splash over the Thanksgiving holiday. So the fishermen had to … I just want to know your experience, view, and opinion regarding this, and this post is NOT intended to start another difficult discussion. Today is the three-year anniversary of “Frozen,” and I want to celebrate it with you all; though not for its sharp or witty humor, nor its unique love story. Elsa’s powers grew immensely (and I wonder, is she also the Avatar now, capable of bending earth, water and air as well as water?) In Frozen II, there’s no similar betrayal beyond one dredged up in the memory of water. The Frozen original ending more closely followed the Hans Christian Andersen fairly tale (and probably wouldn't have been as popular). If that had been the only time she took him the wrong way, I’d be okay with it. Fortunately, the young man says, his people have a special way of proposing that’s bound to get her attention. This is part of the problem with ret-conning the story and jamming in this entire plot without establishing anything about it in the first movie. I want to share with readers my reasons as to why Elsa’s struggles could represent someone struggling with a mental illness: The Japanese Fresh Fish Story - The Japanese have always loved fresh fish. Encountering Everest-like conditions, mystical trolls and a hilarious snowman named Olaf, Anna and Kristoff battle the elements in a race to save the kingdom. All of this is resolved in the end when Kristoff shows up at just the right time to save Anna and then he proposes and she says yes, of course, and now I guess he gets to be king. Then one night, it all changed. To combat this, Anna responds the only way she knows how: by giving Elsa the kind of love and consent her sister deserves (Relatoinship Story Direction: Acceptance). Well, finally I got a topic for discussion post and I decided to write it right now (which is already late night here). Yes, fridge theft is apparently rampant in offices all over the world. The way Fallon sings it is pretty much how I hear it in the movie: Were there parts of Frozen II that I did enjoy? I admit, I did really enjoy that horse. Or their own ability to navigate a strange land in the pitch black? All Rights Reserved, This is a BETA experience. Even the villain is written like a moron—and then quickly forgotten. You couldn’t come up with anything more interesting? What if they’d found him and were overjoyed to meet him for the first time, and he seemed like a kindly old man? This story point increases the conflict between the Main Character and Influence Character. “You could put a whole city in a lab.” In any case, the girls head north to find out the truth about all of this, leaving their subjects behind them. So Elsa is basically the Fifth Element, I guess. It was a cultural phenomenon, even though I thought Tangled had better, funnier, more emotionally powerful music than anything in the original Frozen except for maybe Olaf’s lovely and hilarious “In Summer.”. And Olaf, who was—once again—quite funny this time around. The relationship between Anna and Elsa conjures up circumstances unheard of in modern film, let alone an animated one. In fact, I’d say that Frozen 2’s lack of compelling or catchy tunes is its very biggest problem. The visuals in general were stunning, and at times the forest looked very nearly real. 'Frozen II' is breaking box office records and delighting young audiences everywhere, but it fails ... [+] utterly to live up to the original. Crazy how just disappearing in the dead of night without a word sends the wrong message! Existing customer? It’s just not a very good movie, at least when compared to the original Frozen. I want a pet reindeer that talks to me when I’m down and a pet snowman that never melts and never shuts up. Fearless optimist Anna teams up with rugged mountain man Kristoff and his loyal reindeer Sven and sets off on an epic journey to find her sister Elsa, whose icy powers have trapped the kingdom of Arendelle in eternal winter. The Consequence of Conscious, also missing from the final film, offers a chance to raise the stakes far beyond "freezing to death". And what of the Relationship Story Catalyst? The novel was first published in 2006. Main Characters are as blind to their Critical Flaws as much as we are to our own. As voice actor Josh Gad recently said: Disney, more than any company, has the ability to create these films that continue to speak to generation after generation because of the timeless themes they address, and I think Frozen might belong in that pantheon of great films. Rather than a story simply of one woman, the sisterly relationship in Frozen made for far better story fodder. Kristoff is far from the brave, self-sacrificing young man from the original. What if he trapped Elsa and ordered Mattias and the other soldiers to stop Anna—and Matias’s loyalties had to be tested? But how does this lead to the fight? If this is the second time your computer has frozen, choose to boot in "Safe Mode with Networking." Or did they just lie to their kids about it? [Edit: I guess they are meant to resemble the native Sami people, but that aside the rest of my point still stands.] Could there be some misunderstanding? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, but having your characters act really, really out-of-character just to further the plot is a bad idea that makes otherwise fun characters seem stupid or insane. And what of the Relationship Story Catalyst? 12. Two princesses are raised by their parents in a palace, but one is cursed with superhuman powers over snow and water and ice. Frozen Trivia Questions & Answers : Movies D-G This category is for questions and answers and fun facts related to Frozen, as asked by users of The main characters of Frozen love making sacrifices—Elsa shutting herself in to protect Anna, Kristoff sending Anna home to Hans, Olaf melting by the fireplace so that he could keep Anna company, and Anna giving up her life so that Elsa could live. When Anna discovers a secret room in the castle and incants a magic spell, she hopes it will make her dream of curing the sickness come true. Olaf and Sven were the only parts of the movie that I didn't really have a problem with. While that may sound inconsequential when compared to the loss of life, it plays stronger thematically against Elsa's issues of letting go and being herself. The movie is attempting to pull a comedy of errors here, but it fails miserably at every turn. Her power is too strong and she doesn’t know what to do with it, so even as a girl she begins shutting out everyone close to her, including her sister, Anna. Instead of some silly surprise that comes out of nowhere, our realization of what Hans represents becomes something much more meaningful to the actual structure of the story. It just isn’t a terribly good movie. The problem in a story is called the conflict.Also the solved problem is called the solution. They are a backdrop to a story about two princesses. And it ended up being a great subject of satire. You may opt-out by. You can’t ignore it, but you don’t really want to sing along. Frozen will endure in the hearts and minds of so many people because of the solid storyform at the center of it all. It’s . Oh, and this hilarious video with Jimmy Fallon and the incredibly talented Kristen Bell singing a medley of a whole bunch of Disney songs illustrates my point about “Into the Unknown” perfectly. Why label Elsa the Influence Character and not a secondary Main Character, or co-Protagonist? I, like so many other parents at the time, grew mighty tired of “Let It Go” but there’s no denying that it had a great hook and held a powerful message for young girls especially. It doesn’t help that I find Indina Menzel’s voice, while quite powerful and capable, often too shrill at the higher end. Create a story that functions like the mind's problem-solving process and enjoy becoming part of a legacy. To be honest, I think the original got off to a slow start and then ended powerfully. As far as improving the central plot, the storyform provides a clue about what could work with the rest of the narrative. Elsa hollering “into the unknown” four times at rising pitch is only catchy in the way hammers beaten over ones head are catchy. Absolutely. Anna is a kind, compassionate, brave person. Suddenly Elsa is hearing voices, and an elemental spirit shows up at the Arendelle and puts out all the fires, starts an earth quake and forces everyone out. He pretended to love Anna, only to show his true colors in the end and very nearly kill her. Suddenly we have this whole story about a magical river that can tell you everything about the past. illustrate but a few of the problematic areas. In fact, we don’t even really ever learn how exactly the fighting broke out in the first place, or why a presumably pre-agrarian society would want a dam to begin with (or why such a society is in Europe when it’s so clearly Native American). While catchy songs, charming vocal performances, and a lush color palette contribute to the film's success, the story itself is dysfunctional. Some fans are convinced that the plot of "Frozen 2" will involve the four seasons becaus e teaser poster and trailer both involve symbols that they think stand for winter, spring, summer, and autumn. Spoilers below. Ok. I’m going to start this post with a HUGE SPOILER ALERT. This all leads back to Elsa and Anna’s parents. As a sequel, Frozen II is an undeniable success. It turns out that the girl who saved their father during the battle in the enchanted forest was none other than their mother! Disclaimer:- If you haven’t seen the Disney animated movie, Frozen (2014) and wish to remain spoiler free, then avert your eyes now and don’t read on.Just to make sure nothing is spoilered I will now post a large space-taking-up photo of Hans, one of the characters featured in the film. She climbed onto her sister's bed and smiled. True love has different faces. “Frozen embryos take up very little space,” Dr. Sherman Silber, director of the Infertility Center of St. Louis, said. Of course we’re all curious to see what this sequel is all about, and why not go to the theater? This story point increases the conflict between the Main Character and Influence Character. It’s such a sloppy move for a bad guy clever enough to use a massive, expensive dam like that in the first place. That’s our bad guy. Understanding how this argument works becomes essential for those wishing to repeat Frozen's monstrous success. Like it's massive Winter-blockbuster sister and equally dysfunctional narrative Titanic, Frozen will continue to live on because of the emotional argument carried out within this key throughline. Discussion. It's important because it offers an opportunity to see the entirety of an argument from every angle, important if you want a story to feel complete. Accuracy: A team of editors takes feedback from our visitors to keep trivia as up to date and as accurate as possible. . This is Frozen Story. The sequel is directed by Chris Buck and Jennifer Lee, the same team as presided over Frozen, which grossed $876m worldwide, and won two Oscars (for … From the outside Elsa looks poised, regal and reserved, … Surely some of the other Northuldra would have come to the same conclusion and found a way to destroy it? Frozen II follows suit, to some degree, with the ending much better than the beginning, but the whole thing is a convoluted mess. Not only do they live in harmony with nature—a harmony that the vicious white settler has undone with inexplicable treachery—they live in an enchanted forest and are in tune with the magical spirits there. She never told him? Frozen took this approach and secured for itself a place within the grand tradition of beloved Disney animated features. The [Dramatica][1] theory of story refers to the structure of an argument as a storyform. And ultimately, there’s no real resolution beyond a forced happy ending with the Arendellians and Northuldra united by a marriage that, well, is full of its own problems as noted above. I hate to be a stick in the mud, but Frozen deserved a better sequel. He could have just invaded in force and probably saved a lot of treasure in the process. Avoid plotholes while writing more stories. When I went to see the original, my twelve-year-old daughter was six. Why would she freak out when he says they might die, knowing full well the risks they’re taking? Another problem with the ending that Ive been thinking about is food. . The snow lifts and the kingdom of Arendelle returns to what it once was (Story Outcome: Success). Not really. The few remaining soldiers put up a quick resistance but buckle immediately. EY & Citi On The Importance Of Resilience And Innovation, How Digital Workflows Helped Save Basketball During The Pandemic, Impact 50: Investors Seeking Profit — And Pushing For Change, Michigan Economic Development Corporation With Forbes Insights. The constant rejection puts an incredible strain on their relationship (Relationship Story Focus: Non-Acceptance) creating an air of stubborness between them (Relationship Story Throughline: Fixed Attitude). All rights reserved. Surely she and Elsa would have at least spent the night in the Northunlra village instead of leaving in the dark to hurry on their quest? It’s just a guy standing on a rock surrounded by reindeer? Or these same people could have been drawn more and more to the charisma of Hans to the point of turning against their compatriots. And what’s the big rush to propose anyways? It made her villainy that much more unspeakable and horrific, her betrayal of her “daughter” that much more despicable. He sought to rule the Northuldra, for reasons never fully explained, by building the dam and harming their forest (for reasons). It doesn’t work.). She neglected, abused, and withheld things from Cinderella for the benefit of her own children. Realizing that love, not fear, reconciled the two sisters (Relationship Story Solution: Deduction), Elsa can now use her powers for good, boldly providing joy to her subjects (Influence Character Resolve: Change and Influence Character Solution: Proaction*). . As a model of the mind's problem-solving process, Dramatica sees a complete story as an analogy to what goes on in our own minds. Frozen 2 suffers from problems similar to many of Disney's live-action remakes. Anna is a twit in Frozen 2, and it’s completely out of character. Or why not invite the leaders of the Northuldra to Arendelle and then kill them there, or have them ambushed by “bandits” on the road? The movie does little to help us understand the politics or geography or culture of either people in relation to one another, thus leaving the conflict bare-bones at best. and that led to some truly gorgeous moments. In the original Frozen, the conceit is quite simple. It turns out it’s the matriarch of the Northuldra people, , and it’s just not a funny bit at all. Regardless of how these story points could have been exposed, bringing them to the film would have helped shore up the logical side of the story and help stifle those criticisms that felt the plot lacked sophistication. And frankly, if these are the best songs you can come up with, maybe it’s time to find new songwriters. As in Elsa from a recent Disney film you may or may not have heard of, “Frozen.” ... “A good story, issues to think about and wrestle with,” Kaufman told me. Since when is Anna the super jealous, paranoid type? 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